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    <title>Parent Driven Development - Episodes Tagged with “Children”</title>
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    <description>Turns out children arrive with no manual. There's no coherent online tutorial.
Between staying up to date with emerging technologies and balancing work and home life in an industry that often requires un-timeable bug fixes, on call schedules, and more, working parents are balancing a lot.
Parents are also exploring additional technical issues like "screen time" or internet privacy, coming at these issues from a different perspective as technologists ourselves.
We cover all of these topics and more using a panel of parents coming from diverse perspectives and a variety of technological backgrounds. We'll shine light onto these issues and provide a valuable food for thought for these folks.
Want to ask a question that the panelists can discuss in an episode? Email us at panel@parentdrivendevelopment.com.
And if you're loving the podcast and want to support us, please visit our Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/parentdrivendev)! 
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    <itunes:summary>Turns out children arrive with no manual. There's no coherent online tutorial.
Between staying up to date with emerging technologies and balancing work and home life in an industry that often requires un-timeable bug fixes, on call schedules, and more, working parents are balancing a lot.
Parents are also exploring additional technical issues like "screen time" or internet privacy, coming at these issues from a different perspective as technologists ourselves.
We cover all of these topics and more using a panel of parents coming from diverse perspectives and a variety of technological backgrounds. We'll shine light onto these issues and provide a valuable food for thought for these folks.
Want to ask a question that the panelists can discuss in an episode? Email us at panel@parentdrivendevelopment.com.
And if you're loving the podcast and want to support us, please visit our Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/parentdrivendev)! 
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  <description>Parent Driven Development

&lt;h2&gt;Episode 008: Remote working with kids&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;00:37 Who all works remotely?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;02:30 Working remotely with kids at home&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lifestyle choice &lt;br&gt;
Nursing and alternate schedules&lt;br&gt;
Spouses working from home as well&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;06:00 Working remotely before and after having a child&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The difference between working from home with a spouse also working from home vs. not&lt;br&gt;
Hard starts and stops to your day &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;10:00 JC forgets pickup&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;11:00 Dealing with interruptions&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/Mh4f9AYRCZY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;This classic example&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Interruptions from your spouse vs. the kid(s)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;15:00 Allison joins&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;15:45 Do companies who accept remote work also do better at understanding flexible schedules and work/life balance?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tyranny of the green dot on Slack&lt;br&gt;
What are the expectations of being remote?&lt;br&gt;
Do we feel guilty about doing "life" or kid stuff during the work day?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;19:53 Being a remote worker vs. being on a distributed team&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Understanding working hours&lt;br&gt;
Helping colleagues be more purposeful about working hours and communication&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;23:00 Shared calendars and communicating hours to your team&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;slack notifications and snoozing&lt;br&gt;
google calendar work hours&lt;br&gt;
basecamp Tools&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;24:00 Based on &lt;a href="https://cate.blog/2016/12/29/figuring-out-remote-work-is-figuring-out-work/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Cate's blog post&lt;/a&gt; Going in to an office established a lot of defaults for a team and working remotely it helps to be more explicit&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;25:30 Being in the office is nice because you get to talk to other adults. How do you deal with isolation?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Going to stores&lt;br&gt;
Being in the coffee shop&lt;br&gt;
Parenting groups and daycares&lt;br&gt;
Playdates with other kids&lt;br&gt;
The difficulty of coworking and coffee shop working while pumping&lt;br&gt;
Leads to great isolation which is pretty difficult &lt;br&gt;
Rant about when people tell you to be social while pumping (spoiler: it's not that easy!!) &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;31:00 Being home instead of going out as a matter of priorities&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What do you want to have time for?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;33:00 Listener Question!! Our first!! It is so exciting!!!&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When is the right time to introduce screens to your child and how did you do it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Allison introduced games first, mostly on flights. When Allison introduced tv shows, she tried to make it educational like &lt;a href="http://pbskids.org/daniel/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Daniel Tiger&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://pbskids.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;PBS shows&lt;/a&gt;, etc.&lt;br&gt;
Talking to your child about what they watched and what they learned&lt;br&gt;
KWu thinks what screen time and for what purpose. And introduce something, see the effect and make changes from there.&lt;br&gt;
JC said as you have more kids, it's harder to control media and screen time. Having structure around things is very important.&lt;br&gt;
Josh remembers lots of research but can't remember when they introduced screens&lt;br&gt;
Andy says do it collectively and sparingly&lt;br&gt;
KWu says that technology and watching things can be used as bonding time and can focus on artistic or creative endeavors as opposed to isolating&lt;br&gt;
JC talks about use of imagination using programs like &lt;a href="https://minecraft.net/en-us/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;minecraft&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;45:00 Genius / Fail moments&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;JC&lt;/em&gt; - my daughter has been playing softball and she looked at pictures of herself batting and fixed an issue! She was resilient and didn't get discouraged. #Genius&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Allison&lt;/em&gt; - Everything is a genius and fail right now. My son's preschool teacher told me that he's doing fantastic #Genius&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Josh&lt;/em&gt; - my daughter has guinea pigs named Ana and Elsa and one of them fell which led to a visit to the vet. There they found out Ana and Elsa are male which led to a great discussion about gender and what gender means. #Genius&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;KWu&lt;/em&gt; - Marriage win! We started watching the Americans together and it is so nice to be doing something together and have something not household related to talk about. #Genius&lt;br&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Andy&lt;/em&gt; - After a difficult day, my daughter wrote "I love you daddy, even when you're grumpy" #Genius? or #Fail?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;53:00 Contact Us!&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Tell us what you're learning! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Follow &amp;amp; Support&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Please follow us &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/parentdrivendev" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;@parentdrivendev&lt;/a&gt; on Twitter or email us at &lt;a href="mailto:panel@parentdrivendevelopment.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;panel@parentdrivendevelopment.com&lt;/a&gt;. Our website is at &lt;a href="https://parentdrivendevelopment.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;ParentDrivenDevelopment.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/parentdrivendev" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Support us via Patreon&lt;/a&gt; and get access to our our Slack Community.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Panel:&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/joshpuetz" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Josh Puetz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/allie_p" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Allison McMillan&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/jcavena" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;JC Avena&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/kwu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;KWu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/andycroll" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Andy Croll&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Additional links:&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://officearrow.com/remote-work-statistics/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;100 Remote Work Stats, Quotes, and Statistics&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt; &lt;a href="https://medium.com/@benthompson/breaking-down-the-father-on-bbc-being-interrupted-by-his-children-9840cdc8857b" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://medium.com/@benthompson/breaking-down-the-father-on-bbc-being-interrupted-by-his-children-9840cdc8857b&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/-Ojvk-4IcOE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://youtu.be/-Ojvk-4IcOE&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<h1>Parent Driven Development</h1>

<h2>Episode 008: Remote working with kids</h2>

<h3>00:37 Who all works remotely?</h3>

<h3>02:30 Working remotely with kids at home</h3>

<p>Lifestyle choice <br>
Nursing and alternate schedules<br>
Spouses working from home as well</p>

<h3>06:00 Working remotely before and after having a child</h3>

<p>The difference between working from home with a spouse also working from home vs. not<br>
Hard starts and stops to your day </p>

<h3>10:00 JC forgets pickup</h3>

<h3>11:00 Dealing with interruptions</h3>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/Mh4f9AYRCZY" rel="nofollow">This classic example</a><br>
Interruptions from your spouse vs. the kid(s)</p>

<h3>15:00 Allison joins</h3>

<h3>15:45 Do companies who accept remote work also do better at understanding flexible schedules and work/life balance?</h3>

<p>Tyranny of the green dot on Slack<br>
What are the expectations of being remote?<br>
Do we feel guilty about doing &quot;life&quot; or kid stuff during the work day?</p>

<h3>19:53 Being a remote worker vs. being on a distributed team</h3>

<p>Understanding working hours<br>
Helping colleagues be more purposeful about working hours and communication</p>

<h3>23:00 Shared calendars and communicating hours to your team</h3>

<p>slack notifications and snoozing<br>
google calendar work hours<br>
basecamp Tools</p>

<h3>24:00 Based on <a href="https://cate.blog/2016/12/29/figuring-out-remote-work-is-figuring-out-work/" rel="nofollow">Cate&#39;s blog post</a> Going in to an office established a lot of defaults for a team and working remotely it helps to be more explicit</h3>

<h3>25:30 Being in the office is nice because you get to talk to other adults. How do you deal with isolation?</h3>

<p>Going to stores<br>
Being in the coffee shop<br>
Parenting groups and daycares<br>
Playdates with other kids<br>
The difficulty of coworking and coffee shop working while pumping<br>
Leads to great isolation which is pretty difficult <br>
Rant about when people tell you to be social while pumping (spoiler: it&#39;s not that easy!!) </p>

<h3>31:00 Being home instead of going out as a matter of priorities</h3>

<p>What do you want to have time for?</p>

<h3>33:00 Listener Question!! Our first!! It is so exciting!!!</h3>

<p>When is the right time to introduce screens to your child and how did you do it?</p>

<p>Allison introduced games first, mostly on flights. When Allison introduced tv shows, she tried to make it educational like <a href="http://pbskids.org/daniel/" rel="nofollow">Daniel Tiger</a>, <a href="http://pbskids.org/" rel="nofollow">PBS shows</a>, etc.<br>
Talking to your child about what they watched and what they learned<br>
KWu thinks what screen time and for what purpose. And introduce something, see the effect and make changes from there.<br>
JC said as you have more kids, it&#39;s harder to control media and screen time. Having structure around things is very important.<br>
Josh remembers lots of research but can&#39;t remember when they introduced screens<br>
Andy says do it collectively and sparingly<br>
KWu says that technology and watching things can be used as bonding time and can focus on artistic or creative endeavors as opposed to isolating<br>
JC talks about use of imagination using programs like <a href="https://minecraft.net/en-us/" rel="nofollow">minecraft</a>.</p>

<h3>45:00 Genius / Fail moments</h3>

<p><em>JC</em> - my daughter has been playing softball and she looked at pictures of herself batting and fixed an issue! She was resilient and didn&#39;t get discouraged. #Genius<br>
<em>Allison</em> - Everything is a genius and fail right now. My son&#39;s preschool teacher told me that he&#39;s doing fantastic #Genius<br>
<em>Josh</em> - my daughter has guinea pigs named Ana and Elsa and one of them fell which led to a visit to the vet. There they found out Ana and Elsa are male which led to a great discussion about gender and what gender means. #Genius<br>
<em>KWu</em> - Marriage win! We started watching the Americans together and it is so nice to be doing something together and have something not household related to talk about. #Genius<br>
<em>Andy</em> - After a difficult day, my daughter wrote &quot;I love you daddy, even when you&#39;re grumpy&quot; #Genius? or #Fail?</p>

<h3>53:00 Contact Us!</h3>

<p>Tell us what you&#39;re learning! </p>

<h3>Follow &amp; Support</h3>

<p>Please follow us <a href="https://twitter.com/parentdrivendev" rel="nofollow">@parentdrivendev</a> on Twitter or email us at <a href="mailto:panel@parentdrivendevelopment.com" rel="nofollow">panel@parentdrivendevelopment.com</a>. Our website is at <a href="https://parentdrivendevelopment.com" rel="nofollow">ParentDrivenDevelopment.com</a><br>
<a href="https://www.patreon.com/parentdrivendev" rel="nofollow">Support us via Patreon</a> and get access to our our Slack Community.</p>

<h2>Panel:</h2>

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/joshpuetz" rel="nofollow">Josh Puetz</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/allie_p" rel="nofollow">Allison McMillan</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/jcavena" rel="nofollow">JC Avena</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/kwu" rel="nofollow">KWu</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/andycroll" rel="nofollow">Andy Croll</a></p>

<h2>Additional links:</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://officearrow.com/remote-work-statistics/" rel="nofollow">100 Remote Work Stats, Quotes, and Statistics</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://medium.com/@benthompson/breaking-down-the-father-on-bbc-being-interrupted-by-his-children-9840cdc8857b" rel="nofollow">https://medium.com/@benthompson/breaking-down-the-father-on-bbc-being-interrupted-by-his-children-9840cdc8857b</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/-Ojvk-4IcOE" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/-Ojvk-4IcOE</a></li>
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    <![CDATA[<h1>Parent Driven Development</h1>

<h2>Episode 008: Remote working with kids</h2>

<h3>00:37 Who all works remotely?</h3>

<h3>02:30 Working remotely with kids at home</h3>

<p>Lifestyle choice <br>
Nursing and alternate schedules<br>
Spouses working from home as well</p>

<h3>06:00 Working remotely before and after having a child</h3>

<p>The difference between working from home with a spouse also working from home vs. not<br>
Hard starts and stops to your day </p>

<h3>10:00 JC forgets pickup</h3>

<h3>11:00 Dealing with interruptions</h3>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/Mh4f9AYRCZY" rel="nofollow">This classic example</a><br>
Interruptions from your spouse vs. the kid(s)</p>

<h3>15:00 Allison joins</h3>

<h3>15:45 Do companies who accept remote work also do better at understanding flexible schedules and work/life balance?</h3>

<p>Tyranny of the green dot on Slack<br>
What are the expectations of being remote?<br>
Do we feel guilty about doing &quot;life&quot; or kid stuff during the work day?</p>

<h3>19:53 Being a remote worker vs. being on a distributed team</h3>

<p>Understanding working hours<br>
Helping colleagues be more purposeful about working hours and communication</p>

<h3>23:00 Shared calendars and communicating hours to your team</h3>

<p>slack notifications and snoozing<br>
google calendar work hours<br>
basecamp Tools</p>

<h3>24:00 Based on <a href="https://cate.blog/2016/12/29/figuring-out-remote-work-is-figuring-out-work/" rel="nofollow">Cate&#39;s blog post</a> Going in to an office established a lot of defaults for a team and working remotely it helps to be more explicit</h3>

<h3>25:30 Being in the office is nice because you get to talk to other adults. How do you deal with isolation?</h3>

<p>Going to stores<br>
Being in the coffee shop<br>
Parenting groups and daycares<br>
Playdates with other kids<br>
The difficulty of coworking and coffee shop working while pumping<br>
Leads to great isolation which is pretty difficult <br>
Rant about when people tell you to be social while pumping (spoiler: it&#39;s not that easy!!) </p>

<h3>31:00 Being home instead of going out as a matter of priorities</h3>

<p>What do you want to have time for?</p>

<h3>33:00 Listener Question!! Our first!! It is so exciting!!!</h3>

<p>When is the right time to introduce screens to your child and how did you do it?</p>

<p>Allison introduced games first, mostly on flights. When Allison introduced tv shows, she tried to make it educational like <a href="http://pbskids.org/daniel/" rel="nofollow">Daniel Tiger</a>, <a href="http://pbskids.org/" rel="nofollow">PBS shows</a>, etc.<br>
Talking to your child about what they watched and what they learned<br>
KWu thinks what screen time and for what purpose. And introduce something, see the effect and make changes from there.<br>
JC said as you have more kids, it&#39;s harder to control media and screen time. Having structure around things is very important.<br>
Josh remembers lots of research but can&#39;t remember when they introduced screens<br>
Andy says do it collectively and sparingly<br>
KWu says that technology and watching things can be used as bonding time and can focus on artistic or creative endeavors as opposed to isolating<br>
JC talks about use of imagination using programs like <a href="https://minecraft.net/en-us/" rel="nofollow">minecraft</a>.</p>

<h3>45:00 Genius / Fail moments</h3>

<p><em>JC</em> - my daughter has been playing softball and she looked at pictures of herself batting and fixed an issue! She was resilient and didn&#39;t get discouraged. #Genius<br>
<em>Allison</em> - Everything is a genius and fail right now. My son&#39;s preschool teacher told me that he&#39;s doing fantastic #Genius<br>
<em>Josh</em> - my daughter has guinea pigs named Ana and Elsa and one of them fell which led to a visit to the vet. There they found out Ana and Elsa are male which led to a great discussion about gender and what gender means. #Genius<br>
<em>KWu</em> - Marriage win! We started watching the Americans together and it is so nice to be doing something together and have something not household related to talk about. #Genius<br>
<em>Andy</em> - After a difficult day, my daughter wrote &quot;I love you daddy, even when you&#39;re grumpy&quot; #Genius? or #Fail?</p>

<h3>53:00 Contact Us!</h3>

<p>Tell us what you&#39;re learning! </p>

<h3>Follow &amp; Support</h3>

<p>Please follow us <a href="https://twitter.com/parentdrivendev" rel="nofollow">@parentdrivendev</a> on Twitter or email us at <a href="mailto:panel@parentdrivendevelopment.com" rel="nofollow">panel@parentdrivendevelopment.com</a>. Our website is at <a href="https://parentdrivendevelopment.com" rel="nofollow">ParentDrivenDevelopment.com</a><br>
<a href="https://www.patreon.com/parentdrivendev" rel="nofollow">Support us via Patreon</a> and get access to our our Slack Community.</p>

<h2>Panel:</h2>

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/joshpuetz" rel="nofollow">Josh Puetz</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/allie_p" rel="nofollow">Allison McMillan</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/jcavena" rel="nofollow">JC Avena</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/kwu" rel="nofollow">KWu</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/andycroll" rel="nofollow">Andy Croll</a></p>

<h2>Additional links:</h2>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://officearrow.com/remote-work-statistics/" rel="nofollow">100 Remote Work Stats, Quotes, and Statistics</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://medium.com/@benthompson/breaking-down-the-father-on-bbc-being-interrupted-by-his-children-9840cdc8857b" rel="nofollow">https://medium.com/@benthompson/breaking-down-the-father-on-bbc-being-interrupted-by-his-children-9840cdc8857b</a></li>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/-Ojvk-4IcOE" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/-Ojvk-4IcOE</a></li>
</ul>]]>
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